Friday, April 25, 2008

Negative VS Positive Religious Liberty

In my recent rereading of The Virtue Of War (1) [A book I highly recommend to all], certain concepts were noted by me that I had missed during earlier readings: That of "Negative Religious Liberty" and "Positive Religious Liberty". I suggest that the recent political, academic and media debates, as to the question of the place of religion in the USA, would be better understood if all understand those concepts.

"Negative Religious Liberty" means, in today's world, that no one should be harmed for what they believe (Including "moral" imperatives") or rituals practiced and statements made as to Faith---As long as such are kept out of public forums and NOT considered in voting for candidates or making public policies. This is the "liberal" or "secular humanist" position or standard which, of course, excludes religion-based "moral" choices (eg As to politics, abortion, war and other like and "hot" topics) as are likely to be in opposition to those held by "liberals" or "humanists" from even being considered by the general pubic, law makers, judges, ETC.. (This is, of course, the current and perverted interpretation of the first part of the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, the so-called "separation clause"!)

"Positive Religious Liberty" supports the full "free exercise of religion" (The second clause of the First Amendment) by allowing, if not encouraging, "Believers" to proclaim the tenets and practices of their religions in ALL forums; But, also and more importantly for this discussion, to have the ethical, moral and faith-based aspects of religions be accounted as valid issues and frameworks for voting and other public decision making.

I hope I have neither twisted nor misinterpreted the Dr. Cole's and Fr. Webster's much better, but longer, presentation of this issue.


1. Webster, (Fr.) Alexander F. C. & Cole, (Professor) Darrell;
The Virtue Of War; Reclaiming the Classic Christian
Traditions East and West;
Regina Orthodox Press; 2004;
ISBN 1-928653-17-0

Thursday, April 24, 2008

More Lies About St. George

THE VERY LEFT-WING "THINK TANK" EKKESIA (UK) PRESENTED THE VIEWS OF THE GREEN PARTY, BUT FLAMING RAINBOW PERSON (I WILL NOT USE "MAN" OR "GENTLEMAN" TO DESCRIBE HIM) PETER TATCHELL AS TO ST. GEORGE. BELOW IS MY LETTER TO THAT UK ORGANIZATION.


Mr. Peter Tatchell is of the worst sub-class of liars, those who use half-truths to corrupt history and subtract from the sub-total of human knowledge. His declaration that the father of St. George was "Turkish" seems to ignore the fact that there were no Turks in Anatolia in his time. To declare that St. George's mother was a "Palestinian" appears to be some perverted effort to link that warrior with the Arab occupiers of parts of today's Holy Land whose commitment to following Mohammed's instructions to use murder, genocide, perpetual war and the other horrors contained within the Koran and Hadith is too apparent in today's events and has been in that area since Muslim bandits occupied that land.

To the whores-of-history as tell such lies as Mr. Tatchell, I note that St. George is the multi-national (In the true Churches of East and West) symbol of the perpetual war against evil and the Evil One and of such of his all too eager helpers as the Mr. Tatchell. His statements are proof that the Evil One is "The Father Of Lies".

My key question for today is: Why do you assist in the lying work of the Evil One? My secondary question is: Why does the RC Church in the UK do the same?



News Brief
St George hailed as a human rights campaigner
By staff writers
24 Apr 2008
The Patron Saint of England (and a number of other countries) has been hailed a human rights campaigner by fellow activist Peter Tatchell - who backs ideas that his national day should be a public holiday celebrating dissent.
"It is time we ditched the myths surrounding St George and celebrated the reality of his courageous life", said Tatchell - who is a prospective Green candidate in Oxford, and has gained widespread media attention for his direct action campaigns for Tibet, against Robert Mugabe, and for the LGBT group OutRage!
"St George's Day should be a national holiday in England. We should celebrate St George as a symbol of freedom, dissent and multiculturalism," says the human rights activist.
"He doesn't belong to the far right. He represents multiculturalism and rebellion against tyranny.St George wasn't white or English. He was a rebel from the Middle East. His father was Turkish and his mother probably Palestinian. He rebelled against the Roman Emperor Diocletian and was executed for opposing the persecution of Christians by the Romans."
"An early defender human rights, he is a heroic symbol of protest and the right to freedom of belief and expression."
"St George's parentage embodies [many nations] and his life expresses the values of English liberalism and dissent," said Mr Tatchell.
Catalonia, Portugal, Beirut, Moscow, Istanbul, Germany and Greece are among the numerous other principalities claiming a historical or mythological link with St George.
The idea of St George as dissident was proposed last year by the religion and society think-tank Ekklesia, whose report entitled When the Saints Go Marching Out: Redefining St George for a new era points out that the original story which dates from the 4th century CE told of St George offering hospitality to a refugee, defending the marginalised, and challenging the persecution policy of the Emperor.
This image has been distorted, and replaced by one of a dragon slayer who backs the crusades (religious wars), the report says.
A new painting of St George by highly regarded artist Scott Norwood Witts, which depicts the saint as a man of compassion rather than a crusader, has been unveiled at the Roman Catholic Cathedral of St George, Southwark, this week.

Wednesday, April 23, 2008

Testing Canada's Human Rights Commissions

As a citizen of the USA I have been following the "progress" of Canada's "Human Rights Commissions" and do have the following questions:
1. Must complaints to that commission be filed by Canadian Citizens or legal residents;
2. Could a "mere" visitor to Canada file such complaints; And,
3. Should someone file such a complaint against all publishers, importers, sellers, public holders (eg Public Libraries), teachers (Including University professors, Imams, Mullahs) who sell or transfer or use the Koran in business transactions or public discourse?

It appears that the Koran has sufficient "hate content" (Please see the references below) to warrant a prima facie case which would warrant a full and public hearing.

I do wonder what would occur if, on the same day, such complaints were concurrently filed in every Canadian city. [In truth, I would hope that your Courts or Parliament would declare the free speech and free press rights of Canadian citizens to be of greater force and value than the actions of those commissions in all areas.]


HANDY REFERENCES TO THE KORAN


* verses which preach cruelty, incite violence and disturb public tranquility (i.e., 2:193; 8:39; 2:216; 9:41; 9:123; 66:9; 9:73; 8:65; 8:66; 47:4—15; 8:12; 69:30—33; 8:15—18; 25:52; 9:39; 9:111; 3: 169—171; 4:100; 48:29; 49:15; 2:154; 3:157—158; 8:59—60; 9:2—3; 9:29; 8:67; 4:84; 29:6; 29:69; 61:9—13; 9:36; 9:5; 9:14; 9:20—22; 4:95—96; 8:72—74; 3:142)
* verses which promote, on grounds of religion, feelings of enmity, hatred and ill-will between different religious communities (i.e., 4:101; 60:4; 58:23; 9:7; 8:13—14; 8:55; 25:55; 5:72; 9:23; 9:28; 3:28; 3:118; 4:144; 5:14; 5:64; 5:18; 5:51)
* verses which insult other religions as well as the religious beliefs of other communities (i.e., 5:17; 4:157; 5:116—118; 98:6; 68:8—13; 38:55—57; 22:19—21; 22:56—57; 5:36; 15:2; 72:14—15;41:33; 4:125; 25:27—29; 26:96—99; 3:85; 8:38; 31:13; 29:41—42; 37:22—25; 37:26—32; 25:17—19; 7:173; 21:66—67; 21:98—100; 16:20—21; 6:22—23; 6:40—41; 6:148; 2;221; 24:3)

Saturday, April 19, 2008

Rx For "Just Peace" In Israel & Palestine

There is a prescription for a just peace in Palestine and Israel! It might be "bitter medicine" for some; But, it will cure the disease of hate and violence there!

Rx: Take one dose of a perpetual promise by Muslims to stop attacking the State of Israel and Jews everywhere, even behind rocks as noted in the Koran; This is applied with the removal (Surgical if needed) of all offensive weapons and Saudi sponsored hate propaganda from Palestine and the lotion of 10% of the military moneys spent by Arab States to be used for the economic and social rehabilitation of the People of Palestine.

In fact, this Rx should be applied to the entire Islamic world---Even at a cost of pandemic apoplexy to the Mullahs of the entire world.

Hear O' Israel---And Learn From History

I specially address this note to the Jews of the UK and ask them to reflect on the words of George Santayana: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" as the lessons so terribly taught in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s must specially be brought to the forefront of all, especially Jews, in the United Kingdom of today. The same "signs and portents" as published by the Nazis in those earlier days are now growing in power and effect put forth by the Nazi like ideology of Islam in the UK of today.

Those Jews who could read the future in those earlier years fled Europe for other lands and saved themselves. Millions of those who did not are now as smoke after a wind storm, remembered but no longer in existence---Just as are all the words and non-actions of the pathological-pacifists of that day (And this) are as to stopping such genocides.

The UK's Jews of today must remember the past so as to not be condemned to a new Shoah. The choices are stark and more immediate that most think or believe. The Government of the UK is very apparently surrendering to the forces of the Jihadi who have seized control of Islam and will not protect Jews now or in the days-of-dread which are so close upon them.

Those stark choices are these: Flee the UK; Or, find some new Judas Maccabeus to lead them in a campaign to crush and destroy their enemies before such creatures of hate escalate to beyond the level of massacre the already initiated war against the Jews.

Since the British Government has proceeded so far in disarming all law abiding citizens of the UK, leaving them at the questionable mercy of those closely following the horrid teachings of Mohammed and of other criminals who might join them in pogroms, I see little choice but the illegal importation of such arms as needed for self-defense OR Irgun like raids on Mosques and other places where Muslims are likely to have stockpiled such arms.

Tuesday, April 15, 2008

Senator Obama & Columnist Kane VS Reality

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel's Eugene Kane, in his April 15th column ("Campaign promises more 'gotcha' games"; Please see below) provides clear evidence that he, like Senator and professional elitist Obama, is very much out of contact with small town Wisconsin (Or Iowa or Pennsylvania). Mr. Kane seems to have forgotten the numbers of small town citizens who voted for Senator
Obama before he revealed his big city, big money and big-nose (For looking down at us) positions.

Mr. Kane's (And Senator Obama's) Information, rational small town and big city citizens:
1. Do not love guns as much as the liberty and freedoms they represent, along with free speech and a free press, AND as the means to enforce all such freedoms (Including the "free exercise of religion") upon would be tyrants and elitists;
2. Do not hate gay marriage as much as they realize that, in spite of the failures of so many traditional marriages, that the time-immemorial one-man with one-women marriage and family unit is the best and soundest base for any civilization;
3. Do not "scapegoat illegal immigration" but more realize that beginning a life in the USA upon the shaky basis of disobeying our democratically based laws is not good AND that such illegal immigrants cost much more to the economic and social well being of our land than they give to it; And,
4. Have little concern about promoting a segregated way of life beyond a desire to have their families raised in safety away from gang-bangers, pimps, street-corner drug dealers and such like thugs.



Campaign promises more 'gotcha' games
Posted: April 14, 2008


Eugene Kane


Lucky for him, it's been months since Barack Obama won the Democratic primary in Wisconsin.
Considering his recent comments about small-town voters being "bitter" folks who turn to guns, religion and bashing illegal immigration out of frustration, he might not be as popular today.
Frankly, if it weren't for the kind of people in small towns in Wisconsin who love guns, hate gay marriage, scapegoat illegal immigrants and promote a segregated way of life, there are plenty of politicians who would never get elected around these parts.
Since Obama won in February, it's been one public relations fiasco after another, including his incendiary black Baptist preacher and a clumsy attempt to lump his grandmother into a group with "typical" white people because of her racial attitudes.
This week, Obama must address yet another gaffe that could resonate for people still deciding between him and Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination.
During an appearance at a fund-raiser in San Francisco, Obama was overheard telling supporters that middle-class Americans in small cities and towns in the Midwest and other places were bitter about the current state of the country and often expressed that bitterness in specific ways.
"You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years . . . And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," Obama said.
Obama's words became instant fodder for both his Democratic and Republican opponents.
Clinton accused him of expressing an "elitist" mentality that looked down on the kind of working-class folks who go hunting and resist gay marriage. John McCain also chimed in that Obama's words were "condescending" and "out of touch."
Later, Obama clarified (he's getting good at clarifying his remarks) without totally backing away from the substance of his statements.
In Wisconsin, state politicians have gotten good at using issues like gun control, gay marriage and illegal immigrants as scare tactics for voters looking to lay blame for society's ills. (I would add talking about the threat of "activist judges" ruining our way of life to that list.)
Wisconsin is known as a progressive state, but there's a move afoot to change things, including reinstituting the death penalty and allowing the carrying of concealed weapons.
With Pennsylvania - another state filled with small towns - next in line for a major primary, it's almost certain the discussion will focus on Obama's true feelings about small-town voters instead of an out-of-control murder rate in a major city such as Philadelphia. It's also clear that the rest of the 2008 Democratic campaign will include more games of "Gotcha!" between Obama and Clinton as each waits for the other to trip over their tongue.
There are bitter voters in small towns and villages across America, including Wisconsin, but it's likely nobody will get their votes by talking down to them. That's just common sense, which is something Wisconsinites are known more for than their bitterness.
Contact Eugene Kane at (414) 223-5521 or ekane@journalsentinel.com

Saturday, April 12, 2008

Guns On University Campuses

It appears (Please see Badger Herald article below) that the UW Police Department and the "International Association Of Campus Law Enforcement" are in need of some history instruction after the (Paraphrased) precept left to us: "Those who do not study history will be condemned to repeat it"---As to shootings on various school campuses (Virginia Tech, Northern Illinois U. and Columbine HS) where the police were, as usual, too late and too indecisive to stop massacres VS the lesson provided by two armed students at Appalachian Law School whose possession of handguns and decisive actions stopped a murderer from increasing his kill count to the massacre-level.

Applying the KISS principle often taught in engineering schools, the following formulas are offered:
1. "Gun Free Zones" = "Free Fire Zones For Crazed Criminals"; And,
2. "When Murder Is Seconds Away, the police are only Minutes from the scene and, thereafter, standing around waiting for some command decisions".

If you prefer the "deeper" thoughts offered in Philosophy Departments and good Law Schools: Individuals have a Natural Law Right to an instantaneous defense against criminal attacks and, lacking immediate and decisive police protection, to the ready means (Effective weapons at hand) of enforcing that right.

Of course, the entire State of Wisconsin is now a "free fire zone for crazed criminals". The first step is to pass a "Must Issue CCW Permits" law to cover all adult (Voting Age), sane and law-abiding citizens at such a low cost as does not discriminate against the Poor AND does NOT allow the UW to again put itself above the Law. (Michigan's experience with a state wide CCW practice and the University of Utah's forced allowing of CCW has demonstrated the safety of that practice AND the errors of the self-serving, "politically correct" Chiefs-of-Police in those jurisdictions.)



NEWS--The Badger Herald (April 11, 2008)
Students advocate for concealed guns at UW

by Amelia Vorpahl
Friday, April 11, 2008
In the wake of the recent killings in the Madison area, a student group advocating for the concealed carrying of weapons on campus has been gaining more attention.
Bret Bostwick, campus leader of Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, said he first thought of starting a University of Wisconsin chapter of the group after the Virginia Tech shooting last year. After the shooting, he said he wondered whether the tragedy “could have played out any differently.”
“We can’t say for sure that a concealed handgun license holder in one of those classrooms would have prevented the shooting, but we can say for certain it would even the odds,” he said.
Bostwick said one of the group’s main goals is to open up a dialogue about campus safety, an issue of increasing relevance after the recent death of a UW student. The group believes only students who have gone through adequate training, education and background checks should be allowed to carry concealed weapons.
“We don’t want to just hand guns to students,” he said. “We are talking about licensed, trained individuals that have completed a background check.”
According to Bostwick, concealed carry laws are actually the norm in the country, and Wisconsin and Illinois are the only two states that don’t have some form of a concealed carry law.
Bostwick said it is easy to assume that gun-free zones are a good idea, until you look at it from a criminal’s perspective. He said criminals look upon gun-free zones as areas where they know people will be unarmed and vulnerable.
“Laws against concealed carry don’t stop criminals from carrying guns,” he said. “Criminals don’t obey the law. The law instead prevents good, trained people from being able to protect themselves and other innocent people.”
Bostwick said Students for Concealed Carry on Campus faces a double hurdle because they must advocate both for concealed carry statewide, as well as on the UW campus. Many states that have concealed carry laws still prohibit concealed weapons in public areas like college campuses.
The UW chapter of the Students for Concealed Carry on Campus is not the only advocate for changing Wisconsin gun laws.
In 2006, Rep. Frank Lasee, R-Bellevue, in response to the fatal shooting of a high school principal in Cazenovia, proposed legislation that would allow trained school staff and teachers to carry weapons in Wisconsin schools.
The legislation ultimately failed but did spark a debate about public safety and gun laws in Wisconsin.
According to UW Police Department Lt. Eric Holen, university police would still oppose concealed carrying on campus, even if it became legal statewide.
“The person carrying the weapon may feel more safe and more in control,” he said. “But the person next to them may or may not feel more safe if they know people around them are carrying guns.”
Holen said people cannot solely rely on a weapon to protect themselves. He said personal safety has to be multifaceted and that while students should be aware of their surroundings, they should also work to control their environment as best they can. He also said using SAFE services and self-defense classes are options.
According to Holen, the No. 1 way to stay safe is to avoid isolation.
“People can learn some really cool self-defense moves,” he said. “But wouldn’t it be better to be aware and perceive the threat and avoid the big fight altogether?”
The Students for Concealed Carry on Campus will be having an empty-holster protest on campus from April 21-25, when members will be walking around campus with empty holsters. The group will be holding a meeting regarding the protest Wednesday at 8:30 p.m. in the Memorial Union.

Sunday, April 06, 2008

Ads & Judicial Elections

There is little doubt that Americans are assaulted by aggressive advertising at just about every waking moment. With the exception of some few who are totally deficient in mental process, I think it fair to write that most of us have developed a certain immunity to such attacks and the ability to sort out from them the essentials we need to make the best decisions among the offered products.

Those who bemoan the recent advertisements in the election for a seat on Wisconsin's Supreme Court grossly underestimate the intelligence of our citizens. This is the stock reaction to the usually left-wing elitists (Among editors, politicians, columnists and other pundits) towards any of their fellow citizens who might dare to disagree with them---Even to the position of State Representative Fred Kessler who now wishes that we lumpen not be allowed to select judges by democratic voting and related process.

However, it is fair to note that judicial candidates are essentially forbidden to directly address those matters of public law and policy as are important to the people-at-large, legislators and the courts.
Rather that rely on such ads as we have seen in the last two State Supreme Court elections OR on such poorly defined terms as "character", "liberal", "conservative" and the like, those candidates should be allowed to publish-and-proclaim their general positions and policies as to the essential and important questions of the day Their responses (Especially if published on a side-by-side basis) to such questions would give the voters a much clearer understanding of the candidates and what they stand for than what we have experienced in the past! [Below you will find a list of some such questions as might be asked of candidates for election to Wisconsin's Supreme and other courts-of-appeal.]



SAMPLE QUESTIONS FOR JUDICIAL CANDIDATES

1. Do you support or oppose the use of "affirmative action" quotas, goals and set-asides for members of such sub-classes of citizens who have or might-have suffered the effects of discrimination in the past, even if they as individuals did not suffer any such direct impact?
2. Do you support or oppose the contention that Article-1, Section-25 of Wisconsin's Constitution as provides for the right to keep and bear arms for self-defense and other lawful purposes requires the government to allow sane, adult and law-abiding citizens to carry weapons either openly or concealed with or without any permit to carry concealed weapons?
3. Do you oppose or support the positions that any seizure of private property under the use of "eminent domain" must be for the direct use of government agencies or purposes as for building of roads, strictly public buildings, etc.?
4. Do you oppose or support the concept that any government agency which has the power to impose taxes must be governed by a body or board directly elected by the People?

False Prophets

There are and have been many false prophets. We were warned of such by Jesus the Christ as to future religious mis-leaders and by others as to those who would misdirect us in other areas. Such religious false prophets and "messiahs" did appear throughout history in the Middle East, USA and other places.

Karl Marx, V. Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao all misled (And murdered) millions by and to enforce their unsustainable economic theories. Lesser economic disasters were proposed by such as William Jennings Bryan and Charles Ponzi (Look them up if the names mean nothing to you). All of them wrote or spoke in "prophetic voices"---And were false to the core of meaning and existence.

In the USA of today the false prophets of race preach the past and not the future, thus insuring the future remains as the past. By doing so they insure their own considerable incomes. They support: Conflict and not peace; Hate and not compassion and love; Blaming others for the social problems of our day and their communities rather than self-examination; AND, resentment rather than self-driven solutions to such conditions as need correction.

Among those new and very false prophets are such as Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan and even Milwaukee's own Eugene Kane and the father-son Michael McGees.We should beware of those persons and all who follow them and their teachings.

Saturday, April 05, 2008

The Church & The Civil Law

The Church, in its Bishops in the USA, has seriously weakened its position as to the Law in its pathological obsession with protecting clergy from just punishment for the sexual and psychological abuse of minors. It has attempted to inflict upon the People the very outdated and discredited "right of clergy" (Look it up if you do not know the term).

Those bishops have also weakened their moral positions and the place of the Church vis-a-vis the law (Especially in a democracy) by claiming that our just laws regarding citizenship, border controls and immigrations are subject to Church law when, in fact, such laws (From the time of civil Rome) are something which "belongs to Caesar".

I hesitate to present these concepts to the USA's bishops as I wonder if we still have enough qualified priests to fill the vacancies caused by the heart-attacks and strokes such would bring.

Friday, April 04, 2008

Not All US Marines Remain Heros

Human beings are fallible! Without regard to heredity, wealth, education, upbringing and training, some fail to meet minimum standards of decency. We have ministers-of-religion who sexually or psychologically abuse others, the Harvard educated sons of rich men who will leave a woman to drown or otherwise physically or financially abuse others, lawyers and police officers who break the law they know so well---And sometimes members of the United States Marine Corps who, in spite of the best available training in manliness, turn out to be pustules on or cancers within the body politic.

Among such failed marines are Lee Harvey Oswald, the U-Texas Tower shooter, "Jack" Murtha (That most corrupt congress-critter) and, in recent news, Rev./Mr. Jeremiah Wright, the preceptor, councilor, pastor, ETC. of Presidential Candidate Obama.

It appears that some once-upon-a-time marines have NOT "Always Faithful" to the spirit of the Corps and such service does NOT mitigate their later betrayal of the American Way OR of any other standard of decency, honor and courage.

Tuesday, April 01, 2008

A Saint, Guns & Points-To-Ponder

OF LATE, I HAVE BEEN AVOIDING COPYING OTHER PERSONS BLOG ENTRIES. HOWEVER, THIS ONE IS TOO GOOD TO MISS!

Monday, March 31, 2008
http://catholic-caveman.blogspot.com/
St. Gabriel Possenti, Patron Saint Of Gun Owners...
Ora pro nobis
Helemt tip to my buddy, Former Altar Boy, for forwarding this e-mail to me.

The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental.

A few points to ponder;

1. Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

2. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.

3. I carry a gun cause a cop is too heavy.

4. When seconds count, the cops are just minutes away.

5. A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46."

6. An armed man will kill an unarmed man with monotonous regularity.

7. The old sheriff was attending an awards dinner when a lady commented on his wearing his sidearm. "Sheriff, I see you have your pistol. Are you expecting trouble?" "No Ma'am. If I were expecting trouble, I would have brought my rifle."

8. Beware the man who only has one gun. HE PROBABLY KNOWS HOW TO USE IT!!!

But wait, there's more!

I was once asked by a lady visiting if I had a gun in the house. I said I did. She said "Well I certainly hope it isn't loaded!" To which I said, of course it is loaded, can't work without bullets!" She then asked, "Are you that afraid of someone evil coming into your house?" My reply was, "No not at all. I am not afraid of the house catching fire either, but I have fire extinguishers around, and they are all loaded too.." To which I'll add, having a gun in the house that isn't loaded is like having a car in the garage without gas in the tank.